Miley, Robin, Race, Raunch and Kids

Robin Thicke and Miley Cyrus perform. (Image via HuffPo)

In this age of slut-shaming hypersensitivity and the slipping of a culture based on a shared sense of morals regarding decency and self-respect we sometimes fail to have the conversations we should be because no one wants their head chopped off for speaking up and no one wants to be made to feel bad about a lack of morals. Or common sense.

Robin Thicke and Miley Cyrus are being talked about everywhere, in different ways and by different communities, but the conversation is valid. It is not acceptable to attempt to shut up and silence people concerned about the impact of media with the cries of “slut-shaming!” simply because we are discussing how raunch culture impacts our families and society as a whole. Critical analysis and media literacy require us to examine these things, and we can do so in a way that does not include slut-shaming. What is so interesting is that all of the kids and young adults I have spoken to about the performance and who I have seen interviewed in the media all had the same reaction, “That is so unfortunate. It is really inappropriate.”

Both performers should be held accountable for what they did. It was rehearsed, there were many adults involved in making the decisions about what the audience would see. I think we can hold performers responsible for their art free of censorship, as the audience we have every right to comment on and critique. This act went on stage with those responsible knowing plenty of young people would be seeing it. I’m rather certain they were banking on that.

I’m not sure too many people had high standards for Thicke, whose rise to fame came on the wings of this summer’s rape anthem. On the TODAY show his mom spoke of her shock over the way Miley danced with her son, but said nothing of Thicke’s sexist, degrading video to his hit song about date rape. It is the perfect example of the double standards we hold in society. She says she can’t unsee Miley’s rump twerking on her son, just like I can’t unhear Thicke’s lyrics about wanting to tear a girl’s ass in half during anal sex because she’s the sexiest bitch up in this place. I wonder if that makes his mom blush, too?

People feel differently about Cyrus than they do about Thicke, and when we discuss this we are falling short when we shrug it off by saying she doesn’t want to be a role model, doesn’t owe anyone anything, and can express her sexuality any way she wants. That falls short because she is a role model and how she expresses her sexuality impacts the millions of girls with less fame and less money. Miley becomes part of a media culture. Media shapes perception, and perception becomes reality.

People are chalking it up to her being a mistake-prone 20 year old. She can wear what she wants, do what she wants. Other people are saying she is at the mercy of her management and production team. Still others are saying she is a lost child star who still needs some guidance and the pressure of the spotlight is so hard.

I was once a hard-partying twenty year old young woman who will forever be grateful social media did not exist during the years I was 17-22. But here’s the thing – You aren’t a badass or a sexual grown up when you have to try so hard to prove to everyone that you are. And you don’t get street cred for exploitation.

Another special moment from the Cyrus/Thicke duet. (Image via HuffPo)

Miley’s performance wasn’t about her authentic sexuality, it was about her sexuality as a product. When every single female pop star has the same version of sexuality, perhaps we should start questioning how authentic or manufactured it is. It was a racist and raunchy display of how women have to try to obtain media power given the normalization of porn culture in the mainstream, appropriating dance moves from Black strip clubs of the South, and using her Black female dancers as sexual props. Friends, that ain’t feminism or empowerment. I need you to stop pretending that it is.

The sexualization of and by Miley Cyrus matters. The self-objectification to boost a career and ratings matters. During a discussion about this my friend and colleague Nancy Gruver of New Moon Girls said, “When the BEST option for wielding power in our culture that a privileged, intelligent, ambitious and hardworking young woman sees is to manipulate media by purposefully turning herself from a person (subject of her own actions & thoughts) to an object (a non-human thing) of other people’s actions and thoughts it’s the culture that needs change – and that’s what we want to focus attention on. The need to change the culture to help ALL girls and young women be seen and treated as people, not objects.”

In her post “Miley Cyrus joins the boys’ club” my friend Soraya Chemaly writes how Miley was just acting like one of the guys, but being judged for it like a woman. Soraya is right, much of this criticism is linked to Miley’s gender and is the reason she swings and misses but Robin Thicke gets walked to first. The thing is, no one in the audience was cheering her on with a “Yeah, get it girl!” Most of the audience and the online reaction was “Dear God, girl get off the stage!”

But there is another part to this conversation. In order to be “one of the guys”, Miley had to sell other women out.

“In your quest to swing a big dick you made other women the objects. You made them bend over to you, just like you bent over to Robin Thicke. You grabbed them, leered at them, and diminished them to build yourself up. Maybe they’ll let you in their club. Maybe, for a while, you get to be the subject instead of the object.” – Emily Heist Moss

So I can’t spend time trying to convince people how wrong the sexualization, objectification, and racism were in this performance. You see it or you don’t. The new Miley is a brand, you like it or you don’t. This is not a rare occurrence, it is one more drop in an overflowing bucket of  media reeking of sexism and racism.

What I’m more interested in is guiding parents in how to discuss this with your kids. This post and this post do a nice job of addressing Miley as a person and would be good to read with your tweens/teens and discuss.

Here is what I asked of my facebook community, and you can see the discussions play out here and here.

1. Give examples of how we deconstruct this kind of media and its messages to our kids.
2. How we differentiate sexual expression vs putting raunch on display for ratings.
3. How you explain to kids why they might hear Miley taking so much heat but not Robin.
4. How you explain the difference between critiquing media and critiquing a person to your child.

Nearly everyone is focused on Miley and girls. Well, what about Robin and boys? Let’s look at this….
– How would you talk to your tween/teen BOYS about older men using younger girls like sex objects and male performers being surrounded by barely-dressed female backup dancers?
– How would your boys answer: When so many of the female performers are so scantily clad, is that self expression of sexuality or the symptom of something larger? Why were none of the men nearly naked?
– How would your boys answer: How do you feel the representations of women last night affect your female friends and family members?
– How would your boys answer: What expectations does our family have around how you will treat girls and women? Did what you see or heard about from the VMA’s live up to that or fall short?

 

And here are some of the best responses:

“I do see that she is taking all the heat and its sad that he isn’t, not to mention any of the other grown adults with much a more developed prefrontal cortex who green lit the performance. It’s interesting to show children that se is getting all of the attention (however negative) but there is an unseen puppeteer in the way of management, agents, PR people, production teams, marketing, etc that all have their hand in the till. I remind my daughter that we don’t know Miley. We can’t say she’s a “bad girl” but we can say that she performed inappropriately and made decisions that would not be considered good choices in our family. The thing that bothers me the most about the whole performance is the teddy bears. It’s almost as if the set decorator (who obviously had a hand in the video as well) is making the statement that she’s “a little girl with her stuffed animal but look at how naughty she can be.” That, to me, is the worst “artistic” statement and contributes to the allure of over-sexualization of young girls.” -Jessyca Haddix

“It was a great example of what is called The Patriarchal Bargain. A patriarchal bargain is when a woman willingly accepts gender rules that generally disadvantage women in exchange for whatever power she can then wrest from the system. It is an individual strategy designed to manipulate the system to one’s best advantage, but one that leaves the system itself intact. Miley fulfilled the bargain in textbook fashion – sexualizing herself, turning the Male Gaze on herself, in order to manipulate the system, which benefits her personally, but at the expense of all other young women, who feel the repercussions of male gaze, without being able to subvert it for financial gain. This isn’t about making the world G-rated. It is about making women objects, instead of letting them be subjects. It isn’t a healthy take on female sexuality at all – there is no empowerment for women in that performance, or in singing a song that glorifies the interchangeability of objectified women for men’s pleasure.” -Kristin Yates Thomas

“I think our society has crafted a script that Miley is just following (as are many of us). It’s a script where someone appeals to children, and then in order to try and broaden that appeal, they resort to incredibly raunchy, provocative, disturbingly over-sexualized performances. In this script, our part as grownups is to be horrified and disturbed, and our teenagers’ part is to be fascinated by the sexuality and enjoy that their parents are so horrified.
I think we need to find ways to get around that script. We need to create an environment where young performers can break into an older market without needing to resort to shock tactics. We need to help teens understand that there are so many other ways to be an grownup performer than these overly sexual tactics… maybe offer them some awesome examples of music stars who appeal to adults in a non-sexual way. I’m not sure what the answer is, but I don’t think it can just be “oh that’s so awful!” because that’s just playing into the script of “child star gone bad” that Miley is intentionally playing, and teenagers are buying.” -Scott Gendel

“I think an important thing to discuss with our kids is what’s the purpose of media. It’s attention to and selling of a brand, message or product. So I would ask what are they attempting to “sell” or bring attention to. Women often times have to try harder to stay in the limelight and constantly push the sexuality boundaries to stay “relevant”. -Angelica Amador

“If I were having this conversation with my kids, I’d talk about how some former child and teen stars introduce raunch into their performance when they reach adulthood, in order to distance themselves from the “child” label that no longer fits them. It has a marketing aspect–telling the world they’re no longer (hopefully) marketing to a child audience, but to an adult audience. A lot of teenagers change their dress and demeanor to show that they’re growing up as well. However, there are classy ways to do this, and ways that make a person (male or female) look foolish. This performance was an excellent example of how to make yourself look foolish.” – Jessica Goeller

“Media is a vehicle. It is how messages and imagery are transmitted publicly when you are not there in person to directly see or hear information, a performance, etc. It is how material flows through video, internet, radio, print, etc. Children can understand that media is a tool for making money as well as transmitting information, and that the people who control media control information and messaging, and make money doing so. Their motives, therefore, are not always pure. They are selling the public something. In the case of Miley’s performance, media is trying to sell music, and also a message about women: that they are valued for their sexuality above their talent, and that they must perform sexuality in order to sell anything else. Miley herself is both used by the media, and a user of the media. She is used in that she has bought into the idea that media ubiquitously promotes about female sexuality being the primary worth of females, and a necessary path to success. She also used media to promote herself, regardless of the message it sends to young fans. Therefore, media literacy is important for children to understand and a skill to be developed–so that they will learn to think critically about the complex relationship between human beings and media. In my opinion, in the case of Miley Cyrus, there is enough blame to go around for everyone–Media, her managers, patriarchy, and Miley herself. But kids need help deconstructing this.” -Lori Day

“I am raising 3 boys to be men and did some thinking on this after breakfast, as I was looking at your page and other posts on line about the performance last night. We don’t have cable now and my husband and I debate whether we ever will. We want to be careful about what our kids are exposed to – but we are also coming from the point of view right now of parents of very young children (ages 1, 2, and 5). We know as they get older we will start to lose some control over what they are exposed to in the media. We try to focus now on teaching them certain values – such as respect for all people. Treat others the way you want to be treated. Hopefully then, when they are older, we can have frank discussions about issues like this. I can’t help but worry about this topic because – holy wow! – how will things be different in 5 and 10 years and how in the heck WILL we talk to our sons about things like this and remain confident that we are giving them the tools to live their lives like gentlemen, with a healthy and realistic view of the world and the ability and confidence to make good decisions and not be afraid to stand by their convictions!” -Shannon Cooper Woodward

“I feel like it would go something like this. “You see those girls up there that are half naked and making very sexual gestures? They are people. The simple fact that they are people means they deserve to be treated with at least the most basic level of respect even if they are not respecting themselves right now. Sometimes respect means not participating in another person’s disrespect of themselves. This could mean trying to quietly take them to the side and talk to them, to let them know that they are worth so much more then the side of themselves they are showing to the world right now; or in the case of things in the media it could mean looking away, closing the magazine, not buying the mp3 etc. etc. If that man up there in the stripes thought that Miley deserved more respect what do you think he could’ve done differently?” -Theresa Costello

“The incident was, to me, very sad – but not so unexpected. Why are we surprised when a 20 year-old young woman sexualizes and objectifies herself for an audience (and to make money)? She’s acting out the messages that our culture has sent her for years. Let’s get angry at the culture that teaches girls and young women that objectifying themselves is okay. It’s not. It’s ironic that this conversation is happening on Women’s Equality Day. The performance last night with Miley Cyrus and Robin Thicke was an out and out demonstration of inequality. In honor of Women’s Equality Day, let’s talk about the real issues – and let’s include men and boys in that conversation or there’s no way that we will be able to change our culture and the messages that it sends to both girls and boys about how to behave individually and how to interact with each other.” -Julie Simons

A still from Miley's entourage performance of "We Can't Stop". (Image via HuffPo)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Comments

  1. You nailed it. We have to be able to discuss issues like this without being accused of “slut shaming,” especially as parents of kids who are influenced by this kind of material. But absolutely, both performers should be called on their behavior. The fact that Thicke’s own mother completely disregarded her son’s disdain for women floored me, but then again, it didn’t. It just demonstrates what she taught him about women.

  2. I dont really have cable and I have yet to see any part of the VMA’s, but all this talk about Miley? I just dont get it… I mean these people have choreographers and wardrobe/makeup. Someone is getting paid to tell her to do dance like a tramp and wear a latex bikini. They have dress rehearsals and practice. Why does no one mention this? And why is this person not fired yet?! Probably because ‘the plan is working’. So, again, who are we chastising?

    I totally agree that what happened is wrong, but I’m looking more at the crew that put this all together.

  3. What about Disney? It’s not a coincidence that most their musicians come out like this. I think they script it. Same story, different princess. It wouldn’t be the first time they objectify women in their characters. Disney purposely draws their cartoon versions of these Princesses with curvy lines, sexy eyes, and half naked.

    And like I said somewhere else on this subject, where someone shared your friend’s article with Salon I’m pretty sure, boys don’t twerk. Women can take on the role of the men without selling out themselves or other women. Without objectifying themselves. Ciara is a prime example…

    • Michelle, Yes Disney and Princess Culture are part of the problem. Peggy Orenstein does a great job showing the relationship between princess culture and later on pop culture for young girls and how they shape what girls think of themselves later on in her book Cinderella Ate My Daughter. Another great read is Packaging Girlhood: Rescuing our Daughters from Marketer’s Schemes. This is all related and a reason why Pigtail Pals works so hard to show that girls are capable of so much more than looking pretty and that a childhood free from toxic media messages is worth it.

  4. There’s also the possibility that wasn’t Miley but Miley and Molly (the drug).

  5. Oh, and I’m a mom of 3 girls. I push Nick over Disney. They are too young to be Miley wannabes yet for the most part, and they didn’t see the VMA’s, but when the next Miley gets on stage and foam fingers the man in her skivvies, my blog post on the subject is pretty much what I will be saying, bad words and all. It’s my message to young girls… I think we should inspire them to be humans and not objects, to be true to themselves, and do it with class, and some sass. Warning, I use grown up words…

    http://www.dribblesngrits.com/2013/08/message-to-young-women-musical.html

  6. I think the subject vs. object conversation is extremely valid here.

    Thicke, as the sexual aggressor/predator is the subject. This is a really harmful message to give to boys and girls about relationship dynamics, gender roles, etc. Viewing this as an acceptable display of masculinity has dangerous consequences. I absolutely hate his song and will switch the radio to a different channel when it comes on. His “defense” of the song made me hate it more because it was such an “intent is magic” faux-defense.

    Miley is objectifying herself/being objectified but I also feel that she is being pushed into a specific box/brand by her management team and that makes me really angry. Yes, she’s 20 years old (an adult) but this is so similar to what Britney and Christina did 10 years ago. Women in acting and music who grow up with fame are pushed to “become an adult” by over-sexualizing and exploiting themselves. Nude scenes in movies, super sexual songs, concerts and photo shoots. I *totally* agree with your point that this isn’t a healthy display of developing, authentic sexuality, it’s manufactured and exploitive.

    Both performances are harmful for both boys and girls. Girls are being shown that they need to act like super-sexual objects and boys are being shown to treat girls as such. I’m so glad that your blog and FB are here to bring a different sort of conversation and expectation to the table.

  7. Miley is a recent Disney Star who amassed a fan based consisting of millions of children worldwide and suddenly becomes a terrible example for kids. Robin Thicke’s career has always revolved around sexually explicit music targeting an adult audience and there is nothing new there so Miley’s behavior completely outshines Robin.

    On the other hand, Lady Gaga completely objectifies men in her performances and nothing is said about it. The issue here is not gender, it is the fact that Miley Cyrus has misled people into thinking she was a good role model for children and suddenly flipped into what we saw at the VMAs. As far as the double standard goes, any celebrity, regardless of gender, that gains the admiration of millions of kids and suddenly becomes a horrible example of a human being will receive social lash back. You can be Miley Cyrus or Justin Bieber. You cannot write this entire article and ignore the fact that Justin Bieber, a male, is receiving just as much criticism as Miley for the same thing.

    First he collected a huge fan base consisting of children with his innocent good boy appeal and suddenly, he starts to behave like a complete moron doing drugs in public, getting involved in unnecessary altercations, making public comments promoting sex and drug use and making random and unexpected shirtless appearances on and off stage to show off his little muscles.

  8. Pam Rowley says:

    My son just showed me the video that goes with Blurred Lines and I was replused by it and mainly at Robin in giving other males young and old the idea that this is how to feel and think about women. I did not watch the show but from what I have seen I think everyone involved in its production is quilty of sending out the wrong message. I’m 60, my son 25 and we both feel the same way.

  9. I saw a small part of the performance (if you can call it that) on our news here in Australia. I just looked at the screen and said “what the hell is that”. It was only my husband and I in the room and then he said that it was Miley Cyrus. My jaw dropped open, I completely don’t understand why she would do that. Anyone with any respect for themselves would know what their personal standards are and if they are so very low then that is a true reflection of her as a person. Hannah Montana was scripted in a way that children would follow and like her. I am not really sure who would like what she is now. Where are her parents on this. Boys, girls it makes no difference, if you have been raised in a way that you will be sexually explicit in a public place then you are setting yourself up for a fall. It all starts in the home about respect for self, for others. My girls haven’t even seen it and I don’t think they would feel a need to see it. Good choices have good consequences, poor choices have poor consequences. I too was a 20 year old woman once and I know that no amount of money would have seen my drop my standards to that level. She is a disgrace. I don’t need a conversation with my girls, they have been raised well enough to know what is acceptable behaviour. To the people that run the show – it was a disgrace and I have never even heard of the bloke she danced with and I have no intention of watching anything he has done or she does in the future as they do not represent any decent values. Trash is what it is, hopefully she will grow up. She was more responsible as a child than as an adult.

  10. My 10 year old daughter did not see VMAs but she knows about this. She used to love Hannah Montana. After she heard and probably watched it on her computer she was totally and utterly disgusted. I think if Miley continues to portray this type of “woman” it will hurt her career in the long run. I truly believe she sold out hoping it would make her more popular. Robin, his “music” are just beyond words. I don’t care if they both think they don’t have any responsibility or are role models for children and tweens….THEY are and they BOTH need to take a good look at what they are putting out there for the whole world to see. The whole thing just nauseated me.

  11. I agree wholheartedly except on your points on Robin THicke’s song. I do feel many women/people are reading way too far into the song. While the video (as well as many other videos) objectifies women, I feel the song is merely a song about a man who sees a woman he admires and wants to have sex with. She pretends to be “good,” but is playing hard to get. Maybe it’s because I’ve been the woman pretending to be good when all I really want is to have sex with the guy who is trying to bed me. Anyway, we have a long way to go. Great read!

    • HI Christal –
      I appreciate your comment, but here’s my take on the lyrics to Thicke’s “Blurred Lines”:
      I think what you are missing is that women don’t need a man’s permission to be sexual. Also, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that the man thinks she is very into it, even saying next time you’re in town get at me, after a date rape has occurred because so many men don’t see date rape as rape. Because he knows she wanted it, she had a great time, the alcohol/drugs unleashed her inhibitions because she’s an animal that just needs to learn how to get nasty.

      “I know you want it” is too deeply ingrained in rape culture along with Thicke on record saying he set out with the intent and enjoyed degrading women in the song and video for it not to mean something. Lyric by lyric it may not seem a rape anthem, but talk of seeing a hot girl (at a club or bar, not sure which is meant in the song) and drugging her to get her home and turn her into an animal is not, at all, putting the ball in her court.

      I’ve heard it said this lyric is liberating and acknowledgement of her sexuality, given the general context to me it sounds like coercion and a perfect example of the intense sexual pressure guys put on women:
      OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
      But you’re an animal, baby, it’s in your nature
      Just let me liberate you
      Hey, hey, hey
      You don’t need no papers
      Hey, hey, hey
      That man is not your maker
      Especially since directly before that stanza is the line:
      If you can’t hear what I’m trying to say
      If you can’t read from the same page

      She just isn’t that into him, but as the song goes he persists, telling her how much she wants it. Going to take her. Can’t let it get past him. Date rapey:
      And that’s why I’m gon’ take a good girl
      I know you want it
      I know you want it
      I know you want it
      You’re a good girl
      Can’t let it get past me

      And more:
      Talk about getting blasted
      I hate these blurred lines
      I know you want it
      I know you want it

      This I’ll give some leeway on:
      But you’re a good girl
      The way you grab me
      Must wanna get nasty
      Go ahead, get at me
      And leeway here:
      One thing I ask of you
      Let me be the one you back that ass to
      Yeah, I had a bitch, but she ain’t bad as you
      So hit me up when you passing through
      I’ll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two

      And then we go right back to date rapey, because she was dressed so hot she clearly wanted it, right?:
      Swag on, even when you dress casual
      I mean it’s almost unbearable

      And in the third verse when she has clearly shown she is not interested, the sexual pressure persists:
      He don’t smack that ass and pull your hair like that
      So I just watch and wait for you to salute
      But you didn’t pick
      Not many women can refuse this pimpin’

      And let’s wrap up with drugging her and making sure she can breathe so that he can get back to fucking:
      Baby can you breathe? I got this from Jamaica
      It always works for me, Dakota to Decatur, uh huh
      No more pretending
      Hey, hey, hey
      Cause now you winning
      Hey, hey, hey
      Here’s our beginning

      We will have to agree to disagree that I and other women are reading too much into it.

  12. I think people were more shocked by Miley and that’s why there’s so much conversation. Most people already knew that Robin Thicke is a dirt bag, so no surprise there.

    I wish the best for Miley Cyrus. I think she still has a chance to pull out of her naivety.

  13. Smiley was at fault. Quit trying to make this a huge drama of conceptual origins about how woman are not judged the same .. This Thicke dude is just that, a dude. That’s it.. men’s job is to try to get laid and womens job is to try to make it difficult so that only the best men’s sperm reach the egg, same as all animals. It isn’t as important how he sings or what he says or how he dances.. he is inconsequential. It does matter that the women comes out half naked and shakes her vagina up against his pen us for 4 minutes. Just like women unfairly have the only say in whether a baby is made or born. So they also hold ALL decision in a free society over how we view sexuality.. if I run around my neighborhood half naked I would get arrested. A woman would get a free house, car, and boyfriend from the same action. Get real. No one is being exploited, this is just another example of girls gone wild.. euqal rights WITHOUT equal responsibilities. Par for the current state of MODERN FEMINISM. NOW GET BACK TO WORK!

    • Free, you are welcome to view yourself as little more than an animal if you choose, but personally, I believe that people are better than, and more valuable than, animals. However, this behaviour is exactly what happens when people believe evolutionary theory – they stop behaving as valuable human beings deserving of respect, and start behaving like beasts.

      I am deeply saddened for Miley Cyrus, Justin Beiber and all the other young stars/starlets trying to grow up in the spotlight. They will wake up one day and realise that the “advice” they received urging them to degrade themselves and others for profit was a lie. Unfortunately, the only ones to bear the shame for that will be them.

    • WHERE do I even begin? THIS crap is why women get raped. It’s why feminism exists in the first place. It’s why about 3,000 issues between men and women exist. I’ll be the first one to make the “talking monkeys” comment because humans are pretty much idiots as a whole. They’re the whole problem with the planet, if you know what I mean. BUT, we were also given something more, be it evolution or G*d depending on what the individual believes. We can easily say we’re animals, because from a scientific stand-point, we are, but that’s not the end of the story. To use that as an excuse to perpetuate a long standing ignorant view of what women want and need and deserve, and our rights regarding reproduction, is the biggest, fattest, lamest FAIL of all arguments, because that is ONE side of a coin. Yeah, we have base instincts, but we also have a BRAIN set up to figure out why, and the option to do better.

      I get it–a guy walks into a bar and says he wants to get laid, and he hears crickets. A woman does the same thing and someone’s going to take her up on the offer. BUT GUESS WHAT? THAT IS ON YOU, MEN OF THE WORLD. Stop going for it! Stop the game on YOUR end! For the love of spaghetti, get a clue!

  14. What you people are all missing is the fact that Thicke’s song is not a “rape anthem” at all. Read a little bit about the lyrics. The song is very much about the blurring of the lines between what’s “ok” and “not ok” in today’s society. At the same time, some people have commented that the song seems to be about the blurred lines of sexual consent..hence the phrasing “get at me” — as if to say, “let me know what you’re thinking.”

    do a little research.

  15. No one has mentioned that this is, essentially, child pornography. This unconscious 20 year old woman did a pornographic dance with teddy bears and a children’s hair-style, miming self-stimulation, and stimulating a man old enough to be her father. I hope she and he suffer some repercussions.

  16. The thing I don’t understand is how we accept what happens in advertising, we accept gender roles and stereotypes, we accept the sexualization of women, we go and buy books like “50 shades of grey” in the millions and then we all get upset at a young woman who is nothing more than the face of what society has said it wants…
    Yes, she danced. No, she was not the only person involved. Not by a long shot.

    • Just be careful who you include in “we”, because every issue you bring up has been discussed here and this community does see how Miley is just a symptom of a very sick culture.

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  8. […] and it’s wrong now 5 years later in 2013, ESPECIALLY given the escalation of sexualization, racism, and raunch culture that’s even MORE rampant in the media mix…Kids are getting caught in the splash zone of […]

  9. […] FYI.) but I am inclined to agree with Melissa Atkins Wardley about the whole thing. You can read her excellent blog here . And this one really is informative this time I […]

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